Speaker 2: The person that's going to be in this interview.
And then it should probably only take about half an hour to it should take less than an hour, and then it's just pure casual conversation.
And then it's just purely casual conversation.
Okay, okay.
And then I've prepared about less than ten questions.
And then it's basically just to get to know you as a writer in the community.
And then there are some experiences that you've gone through.
And then this whole clip will be recorded.
And the only purpose of the recording was to serve as a tool for the teachers to listen to.
I'll give it to them.
So don't worry.
And we all speak Chinese.
So there's no pressure.
Okay, okay, okay.
And then basically.
Uh, okay.
That's the first question.
Can you share with us the story of the first time you encountered a fanfic?
And what was your first reaction?
SPEAKER 1: I think it was years ago when I first got into it.
The first time that should be 2017.
And then I thought about it, I thought about it.
I'll look it up.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
It's okay.
It's okay?
Take your time.
There's no such thing as precision.
Well, I'm glad I was able to find out.
Did you just google it?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Yeah, I just googled it.
I know when my first post is and I know when it's going to be.
Holy shit.
It was in August.
Oh, yeah.
It was August of '17.
Why?
Because I saw that Spider-Man movie.
Um he was uh released in July of '17.
Uh-huh.
And after I saw the movie.
I was like wow that's good.
But it was my first Marvel movie.
And then also then I went straight to this adaptation.
This Spider-Man movie.
And I thought there were a lot of things that I didn't know about it.
Because Marvel's movie is a universe.
Spider-Man's movie is linked to Team America IV, and Team America III.
Spider-Man's movie is linked to Team America IV, and Team America III.
But I haven't seen any Marvel movies before.
I've never seen Iron Man.
So I didn't understand a lot of it.
But the overall plot was very intriguing to me.
So I thought I had to understand it.
But at that time, the Little Red Book and other things were not very developed.
And I couldn't find any information.
Then I felt that I was very class inside the iron worm cp.
And then they were all in the class cp, and I was searching for me on Baidu, and I was searching for this cp.
I searched for this cp.
And then the old Ford at that time it was possible to post articles that were connected to Baidu and Weibo.
Well, that's when Old Ford was if you authenticated yourself as a creator in Old Ford, you were even linked to Weibo.
You even tied to Weibo.
Your microblogging can be certified as an old Ford creator.
And then I was searching on Baidu.
After I searched.
I saw that there was this tag.
I didn't even know what the t tag was.
And then I saw that they had this little Spider-Man tag on the back.
And I clicked on it.
And then I realized that every cp prefix had a parenthesis.
And then their cp name.
And then I realized.
I quickly absorbed the knowledge.
And I quickly downloaded the old Ford.
And then I read all the updates.
Oh.
And since the movie came out in '17.
But it's actually been a year since Spider-Man actually appeared in the Marvel Universe.
It's because of that.
He'd already played captain america.
And the ccp had already appeared.
So there's a lot of literature out there.
And then I was like let's just say let's just say let's just say let's just say let's just say let's just say let's just say let's just eat.
And then I just want to say it's been more than a year.
Why can't they see my point?
There's a lot of really good writing.
But I always feel that it's not as good as I thought it would be.
Well before that I had already started writing novels.
No cp novels.
I've been writing romance novels for men and women in the Xiaoxiang Bookstore.
That's right.
I started writing novels about 13 or 14 years ago, two or three years ago.
And I thought that as a web writer.
I think we should do something to shake up the peer group.
Then I started to write their humanities.
That's what I mean.
Ok.
So what website did you write for?
Speaker 1: It's the very beginning of the net writing ah net writing in Xiaoxiang bookstore at that time net writing is a very booming development, is a gap period.
It was a gap period.
I was very young at the time.
I was very young at the time, and the things I wrote were not very mature.
Then I even then sent then is to say that seems to say that not too many people to send text.
I sent out 2,000 words.
And then an editor came to me to sign the contract.
And gave me a recommendation.
Now it seems completely impossible.
But at that time there was a shortage of articles.
Speaker 2: Ah ok.
Now there's just a lot more people up there than before.
So it's like the entertainment industry.
It's like the entertainment industry.
Speaker 2: Okok.
I see you just answered my second question.
What was the first novel you wrote?
It was ok.
The question after that is after you wrote it.
The question after that is after you've written it, is whether or not you've shared it after you've written the first couple of novels you sent out.
Or how did you feel after you shared it?
What kind of comments did you get from your fans?
There's good reviews, there's bad reviews.
It's just stuff like that.
It goes both ways.
Because I happened to be in high school at the time.
I happened to be in high school, and I happened to have a Marvel cp fan at my front desk.
But it wasn't me.
This is cpk, but after I gave him the message.
He half-carved it too.
So it's like we're both Marvel fans.
And then he's got the other cpk.
But you know how it is with Marvel.
“The cp's are all over the place.
Everyone can be a family.
Uh-huh.
And so the two of us just talk a lot.
Uh-huh.
And then he writes another cp.
I write this pair of cp's.
And we would communicate with each other.
So the feedback I get is usually from him.
Or my fans.
And then after my first article went out.
I think it was pretty well received.
Because I picked a very popular storyline.
“adoptive father” is a very popular one.
We're just saying that it's okay.
And it's so popular that no one else in the industry has written about it.
We can imagine what kind of shock it will bring.
And then it's okay.
And then I sent it out and I got about 150 followers by the first, uh, chapter one, and then by the tenth chapter or so, I had a lot of followers.
And then by the tenth chapter or so I had about 1500 followers.
After I updated the article.
After I updated the article, I certified Ford as a fellow creator.
So the feedback from the fans was basically good.
But I was then I was when I was faced with compliments ah is my friend he must also think it is very good, and then he had both of us have a good time.
And then he had the two of us would sometimes scrutinize some of the.
Uh, setup problems.
Because I wasn't familiar with Marvel at the time.
Uh-huh.
And I would ask him for advice on the settings.
And at that stage.
I think that I was a very majestic person as a whole.
I was a very powerful person.
And then I was, and I still remember it very well.
I updated to about 30 chapters of the novel.
I updated it to about 27 chapters.
I went to Old Ford and applied for certification.
And I remember being in math class.
I was in math class, and I was lowering my head and pretending to look for books in my bag.
I was actually looking through my cell phone to see if the certification had been approved.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
And then the math teacher would be amazed that this student had looked down 30 times in one class.
And then the math teacher would be surprised to find that this student had looked down at his book over 30 times in one class.
Oh, my God, that's so true.
He's just looking at it all the time.
And then I was certified to have a lot of followers through this kind of fan base.
I've got a lot of fans, and I'm a certified fan, and there's a small group of fellow authors that I've met.
And then after I got into the group.
There are a lot of authors.
For example, there were those who specialized in drawing pictures.
And those who specialize in altering drawings.
And then specialized in writing articles.
And those who specialize in writing about cars.
And then we all talked in this group.
And that's when the group would change each other's pictures.
And here we go.
And then I came to my third feedback.
It was the same circle of writers.
And then everyone would uh would go.
Like, there's like some like-minded people talking to him.
I said I had a stunt.
But I'm stuck.
What do I do?
It's probably in my pre-conceptualization.
There's some kind of exchange.
And then when I send it out.
I'm sure everyone will be complimentary.
Uh-huh.
But it gives a window.
That we can get to know each other a little bit better.
What kind of literature they're good at.
And what their lives are like.
I think that's an amazing thing.
And it just so happens that a week ago.
I've been out of the game for a long time.
And?
It just so happened that a week ago.
I had nothing better to do.
I went to read that novel at night.
I was reading my original novel, and I was talking to my old friend.
I said, “Oh my God.
The result of digging too many holes is that you completely forget where you left off.
You don't even read it for too long.
I haven't read it in, like, five years.
It's been so long since I've seen it.
I even forgot.
I forgot that I wrote it.
I changed my number.
Then I went back to the novels in there.
And I found the one I wrote.
But I forgot I wrote it.
I didn't look at who wrote it.
I just read the novel.
Uh-huh.
I looked back.
I said, “Oh, my God.
“Why does this setting suit me so well?
Who is it?
After I read it, I realized I was in too much of a hurry.
Oh, my God.
It's okay, it's okay, it's okay.
Ok.
But I realized that there were a lot of things that I couldn't accept that I couldn't accept now that I was thinking at that time, like I might have hated a certain supporting character.
For example, I might have hated a supporting character.
And I'd just villainize him.
But now that I look at it the other way around.
I don't think it's necessary anymore.
Speaker 2: Uh-huh ok.
Speaker 2: Uh-huh ok.
So you personally feel that in.
Uh, is homoeroticism one of your more important creative outlets at the moment?
Or is it just a pastime?
Or something else.
I think it's hard to judge.
I think it's hard to judge, because I usually write some online articles.
And I also write human interest stories.
But they both feel different.
It's like, uh, what am I, what am I?
I'm the one who categorizes both of them as writing novels.
When do I write novels?
When I'm busy.
For example, in the last few days I've been frantically writing this report.
Then I feel very annoyed.
I'm thinking that I've got my computer, and I'm writing something.
I'm writing something.
Why don't I write a novel?
The busier I get, the more I want to write a novel.
I was working part-time as an editor.
And while I was working part-time.
I had a lot of inspiration to write what I wanted to write.
Then I started to write a novel.
So I feel like it's an outlet for my emotions.
But if it's a pastime.
I don't write novels.
I don't write novels.
When I'm very shallow.
I only read novels.
I don't even want to pick up a computer.
I know what you mean.
I totally feel the same way.
How do you say that?
The busier I get, the busier I get.
I don't want to do the work.
I want to do something else that interests me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
But if you're going to read a novel or watch a TV show.
I think it's a waste of time.
I think it's a waste of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It really is.
Because because it's just that at the moment it's just that it's just that I'm going to hazard a guess.
It's just that for you.
In this case, writing a story or writing an essay is a way to be creative.
But at the same time it's a way to make you feel happy.
Speaker 1: I think so, don't you?
There are times when I'm bored and I'll write 80,000 words at once.
I can write 80,000 words at once.
When I was in college.
My sophomore year of college.
I was very bored for a while.
I had a lot of bad news, one after another.
And then my roommate relationship got me really annoyed.
Okay.
And then one night I think it was about 3:00 p.m., 3:00 p.m., 3:00 p.m..
I happened to be reading a very good article about my favorite cp at the time.
Uh, but the premise of this one is that he's a sadist.
But the premise of this one is that it's an abusive story, and the point of it being abusive is that it's abusive to a character that I really like, and then it ends badly.
And then the ending is unpleasant.
It's not like he's being abused in the front and then he's chased off to the crematorium.
And then he's chased off to the crematorium.
No, it's not.
He's the ending.
He's the ending.
He knifed the other guy.
But just for a second he looks at him and knifes him.
And then he's gone.
And then the other guy didn't know if he was dead or alive.
I was very angry.
I was very angry.
I thought, “My life is so bad, why is he so bad?
Why is he so angry?
Why are we always so angry?
I was very angry.
I turned on my computer at about 4:00 in the afternoon.
I wrote 80,000 words in one go.
I wrote 80,000 words in one go, and that's for this fanfic, the fanfic.
And then the fanfic wasn't right.
Because I wasn't happy with the ending.
And I wasn't happy with his plot development.
So I changed his version.
And then I wrote 80,000 words in anger.
I wrote until 2:00 in the morning.
Oh, my God.
This this this is awesome.
How can I say this?
I haven't met many people who have that kind of focus.
I haven't met many people who have that kind of focus.
It's just that I was really bored at that time.
And then I was like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like